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So um. What's with the magical "you are about to view content that may only be suitable for adults -- oh you're not 18 stfu!" thing that has suddenly appeared in my flist? How's lj working this one? Is it something you do or just something they've implemented, er, somehow?

I am unusually irritated, considering it's not even like I actively seek out adult content, really. I mean, whatever, I'm 18 in a month and I can just change my age on LJ, but still, hey, fuck off, livejournal.

Date: 2007-11-30 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latine.livejournal.com
wot? i don't understand.

Date: 2007-11-30 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
When I went to my flist there were a few entries that had suddenly appeared behind cuts that read "You are about to view material that may only be appropriate for adults". I was like 95% sure that cut wasn't there the day before, so I clicked it, and then this weird table thing came up telling me that I have to be 18 to view the page but I'm not, so I should go away. Lol.

Then I looked for more of them and found that some entire journals were blocked. It was weird.

Then I changed my age. Hahaha.

Date: 2007-11-30 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afterthree.livejournal.com
penknife has a good breakdown of what's going on with this, why it's happening, and who it affects:

http://penknife.livejournal.com/304293.html

Date: 2007-11-30 10:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-11-30 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ceky.livejournal.com
It's everywhere! I don't like it... *grrrr*

Date: 2007-12-01 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
Yeah it's pretty stupid. Especially since you can 'flag' other people's work as inappropriate? Whaaat? I mean, in theory I get it, but in practice?

Bah. I'm just bitter because I've been using the intarwebs since I was eight and I manage to not stumble on any childhood-destroying material in my day, so I think the kiddies of today ought to be able to do the same. Lol.

Date: 2007-12-01 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ceky.livejournal.com
Exactly! I've been the same, only I now have like, a year and a half till I'm eighteen. And I'm pissed because sometimes people use the wrong ratings, or there is only one scene in the whole fic that is "inappropriate" so the whole fic gets banned. And the fact that I am actally over the age of consent (because it's 16 in NZ), yet I'm not allowed to read sexy-time fics really annoys me...
/rant

Date: 2007-12-01 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
Yeah I'm 18 in literally a month - the 29th of December -- so it's not a *big* deal, but it reminds me of how back in the day I always used to lie about being 13 in order to sign up for websites, lol. And I just tweaked my age so now I'm apparently turning 19 in a month, but still. It sort of irks me that I had to do even that.

Ratings are screwed up. I don't understand. They're different across every country and the FF.net ones are retarded. Plus what some people consider "harsh language" might not be what I consider harsh language. *shrug*

And technically yeah, I'm above age of consent too - it's like 14 or something here, lol. Good old Canada. While I understand it's because LJ is presumably an American site, it annoys me that they impose the American sense of "what is appropriate".

I recently watched the British version of The Office online, and it astounds me the sort of things they can say on TV that we in North America can't. It also irritates me. I don't get what North America's problem with sex is. We can show TV shows like CSI on prime time that have bloody corpses and brutal, messed up murders, but we can't say "vagina"? Wtf?

*dies*

Date: 2007-12-01 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ceky.livejournal.com
OH! it's just annoying. Like I say, what really annoys me is that I'm over the age of consent and yet b/c I don't life in the States...
And I know what you mean RE:british TV, like here we can say so much more, Americans are always amazed when they get here and are all "what?! all you can't say is fuck and cunt?!"

Date: 2007-12-01 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
I forget what it is we can't say here -- I say "here" because while I'm Canadian, the American + Canadian television is inextricably linked and to be honest most Canadians watch American television only because Canadian tv sucks -- but it's ridiculous. George Carlin, if you've ever heard of him, did a routine about it called 'seven words you can't say on television' or something. They might've changed since his day, not sure.

But seriously. Censors need to chill out. They take no issue with violence but if it mentions sex, HOLY SHIT, get the children out of the room. Ignore the fact that sex is (primarily) healthy and normal while murder and extreme violence is entirely the opposite, but you know...

Date: 2007-12-01 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ceky.livejournal.com
Yeah... I know what you mean.

Fuck You Censors, justSTFU!

Date: 2007-12-01 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ceky.livejournal.com
And yes, changing ages works. Just go from 1991 to 1989 TADA all fixed.

I mean... I'm totally born in 1989...*cough*

Date: 2007-12-01 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamoreno.livejournal.com
I didn't know about this, but that's probably because I'm too old to be cut out from the "adult content"...

Anyway, It's just funny to think most of all the pron written in LJ belong to underaged writers who won't be able to read pron from other underaged people after this anymore. Do mods in LJ even know this? *lol*

Unfortunately this is all some older people's fault, older people who's head is in the gutter and can't cope with the fact fantasy is just fantasy and I think we'll just have to deal with it. :(

I sincerely apologize for all the dirty minded adults making your LJ experience unpleasant, even if I'm not one of them.

Date: 2007-12-01 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
From what I gather it, um, automatically activated if your account said you were under-14 or under-18.

Yeah it's really a futile attempt, lol. I suppose I can understand their War On Explicit Material in one sense, but this sort of thing just irritates me. I feel as though authors/artists/whoever should be able to say, "look, kids, this is explicit stuff, don't look if it's going to freak you out" and if kids look, too damn bad. The idea of censoring everything to protect the kiddies of the world from accidentally learning about sex before the ridiculous age that some kids do (I know a girl who believed, by seventh grade, that you had a baby when you got married - whaaaat?) is stupid. I can see that, okay, little 11 year old Joey shouldn't be reading NC-17 non-con incest slash, I guess, but if little Joey somehow searches it out it's his own damn fault. lol.

Like I said above, I'm just bitter because I feel like they need to stop babysitting us -- on lj, in the media. I can understand not running porn on primetime television, but some measures are ridiculous. Don't even get me started on movie ratings in America, lol.

But yes. Anyway, I just stuck it to the man and changed my age, so it isn't a problem anymore, and as I said it's not like I read that much "adult material" in the first place, but I still do think it's a little silly. It's not as though it's stopping anyone from just changing their age they way I did, and all it's really doing is inconveniencing everyone.

Date: 2007-12-01 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamoreno.livejournal.com
All they accomplish by censoring everything is fuel the urge to seek for what you are missing out.

I've never been much of an "adult content" seeker either, but censorship brings out the rebel in me and makes me want to go and read about incest and non-con and slash and all sorts of kinky things just to piss somebody off. *lol* Unfortunately, it wouldn't make any difference, being twenty-ten already.

Conservative people in America should chill out. There are much more important issues to worry about out there, like teens being able to get guns anywhere. I honestly don't get why do they waste time doing this isntead of worrying about the things that really matter.

Date: 2007-12-01 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
Censorship brings out the rebel in me, too, definitely. The whole "forbidden fruit" theme just makes it more appealing, but everyone seems to ignore that. I'm also raised by the sort of parents who let me watch R-rated movies when I was 5, and believe it or not I have yet to rape anyone or pillage any city! It is incredible, really.

I used to work at a movie theatre for about a year and a half. Our ratings up north are different than the American ones -- we've got G, PG, 14A (must be 14 or accompanied by an adult), 18A (same deal) and R, and as a point of reference, most things rated 'R' in the States are 14A here -- and generally when something is rated 18A, it's because it's pretty hardcore with regards to both sex and violence. Jackass was 18A, so are all of the Saw movies, et cetera... Anyway, we can't let you in if you're under 18, but if you're over 18 you can bring in your five-year-old baby brother if you so choose. A coworker told me that she once had a family purcahse tickets to Hostel - parents and their two kids, about 10 and 12 respectively -- and after about half an hour they came out demanding a refund because it was inappropriate. My coworker sort of gave them a knowing smile and said, "yeah, pretty gruesome, eh?" to which the parents assured them it wasn't the violence, it was the explicit sex.

...?!?!?! Because sex is worse than on-screen murder and torture? Right.

And then there are parents who complain that Ratatouille is too scary for their six-year-old. *dies*

Date: 2007-12-01 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamoreno.livejournal.com
It's almost the same with me. My mom is a biology teacher, so I knew where babies came from and knew about STDs since I was a little girl too and I haven't feel the urge to rape or torture anyone either. Knowing about sex doesn't make you a sex maniac, but makes you more aware and responsible.

Down here, in Chile, movie ratings are also different from America. There is a National Motion Picture Rating Board chaired by the education undersecretary and composed mainly by teachers, psychologists and film directors and their main focus when rating is censor violence of any kind. Sex is really secondary. We've just got all audiences, over 14 and over 18 and so far nobody has complained.

Date: 2007-12-01 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetcherrytree.livejournal.com
WTF HOW WAS RATATOUILLE SCARY?

Date: 2007-12-01 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
They chase him, possibly with a knife. I don't remember if the knife was even involved.

But yeah, this grandma came back like three days later wanting a refund because she'd been told Ratatouille was appropriate for her kid and he was scared and he was upset so she didn't come back for the refund right away but could she still have it, please, and...

Bahhhh. That kid needs to grow the fuck up, lirl.

Also my friend was babysitting and took the kid to go see 'Cars'. He was scared. IN CARS. NOTHING HAPPENS IN CARS. CARS JUST DRIVE AROUND.

Date: 2007-12-01 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luminous-star87.livejournal.com
Hold on, wait...is THAT why the little red flags have suddenly appeared near the comments icons? So other people can flag content that shouldn't be viewed by young eyes?-- weird.

Date: 2007-12-01 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/
You betcha. Take issue with someone else's entry? Think little children everywhere are having their virgin eyes defiled by it? Flag it! That'll show em!

Pah.

Date: 2007-12-01 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luminous-star87.livejournal.com
That's so stupid-- don't they know there are people out there who are either going to be extremely anal about whatever someone says or that are going to be abusing that little button??

"Pah," is right!

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