thirty2flavors | how could this happen to meeeee?

OBVIOUSLY IT SHOULD BE US BECAUSE WE ARE THE ULTIMATE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE AND FULL OF WISDOM AND GREAT TASTE IN EVERYTHING.

On the other hand I would not turn down an army nor a stiff drink (preferably with rum and a little umbrella).

All I'm saying is that for example if people are writing a s2 fic they might NOT want to turn Ten into Edward Cullen and/or make him be overly lovey-dovey. I think it's safe to say that'd be OOC, but you're right...what do I know? ;)

You know I hate elitism of any kind but WTF how hard could it be to imagine that if Ten can't tell Rose he effing loves her at the end of s4 he would have some trouble doing it (and you know... her) any other time as well.

I don't mind Ten2 being written "badly" as much as Ten. because we don't know how much humanity and Donna changed him so he's anyone's guess, but still *random noise of frustration*.

I don't know... Maybe I watch a different show than other shippers? Blah blah, I think I've stumbled over too many romance stories authored by 12 year olds when in the mood for angsty Master/Ten-bantering fic. Not that it's wrong with romance but I prefer stories that feel as if they could be an episode you know...THAT'S IC for me.

And before you ask, my high horses are very comfy thank you :P

OMG. OMG OMG. I don't know why people think Ten is romantic. No, seriously, someone please explain, please, because I don't understand. A sobbing Rose says "I love you" and he says "QUITE RIGHT TOO". WHY DO YOU THINK HE WOULD SUDDENLY WAX POETIC ABOUT HER EYEBROWS D: D: D:

He is emotionally stunted and inept and reluctant to admit to any vulnerability. He is not Edward Cullen. ~~OMG STOP MAKING HIM WATCH HER SLEEP. IT IS CREEPY. DID TWILIGHT TEACH YOU NOTHING D: Also, sleeping people are really really boring.~~

Ten can't tell Rose he effing loves her at the end of s4 he would have some trouble doing it (and you know... her) any other time as well. YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES.

Yeah I should be more lenient with Ten2 but it's hard because I Have ingrained my own perosnal canon into him and when I read stories that don't fit with it I twitch internally. Oops. Same thing happened with James Potter and Regulus Black.

Blah blah, I think I've stumbled over too many romance stories authored by 12 year olds when in the mood for angsty Master/Ten-bantering fic. OMG OMG. OMG SLASH IS THE WORST FOR THIS. Omg. I don't read much slash and part of that is because every time I try, they both start acting like 13 year old girls instead of whatever-year-old men (or in this case centuries-old Time Lords).

Also anyone who thinks Master/Doctor is anything approaching sweet should probably speak to a therapist. I haven't raed much and I imagine that is really for the best. There has only been one fic I've seen where both of them have seemed remotely in character. (I imagine the Master is very ahrd to write, though, so credit for that.)

Yes it is quite comfy up here.

We are just too ignorant to see the mystical force of the eyebrows. They (and only they, for they are magnificent arches of love and beauty. And I hear they also cure cancer.) have the power to melt the frozen hearts of a Time Lord. But seriously those things ALWAYS makes me wonder what I missed when watching. Like, where do they get the material to support for acting like that?

~~OMG STOP MAKING HIM WATCH HER SLEEP. IT IS CREEPY. DID TWILIGHT TEACH YOU NOTHING D: Also, sleeping people are really really boring.~~ HAH!! SO TRUUE. When did stalker behaviour turn into the most romantic thing ever? The only fics where Ten watching Rose sleep would make sense is if he then proceeded to wake her up and insult her inferior species for needing so much sleep, OR for her to make him tea because he's feeling peckish.

Yeah I feel the same way about Ten2, but I can't go around being as big of a jerk about lame characterization as Ten, because we don't know as much about Ten2. I still don't like it when he's like the polar opposite to Ten. I don't think I'll ever get over thinking "OMG NO HE'S STILL THE SAME AS TEN, WHYYY ARE YOU WRITING HIM LIKE A HARLEQUIN ROMANCE CHARACTER, WHY?"

LOL I haven't read any slash-fic in this fandom (unless Ten/Ten2 counts?) but I can imagine what they're like because they're probably written by the same people who writes Jack/Ianto.

Oooh do you remember which fic that was? I saw the s3 finale again yesterday and it sparked my interest in the Master.

The Master is very hard to write, which might explain why the best Master fics I've read are

orange_crushed pure crack stories... but they're hilarious. I mean they could totally be canon if you assumed it's a story read with fluff-glasses on. The tongue-in-cheek feel of it all is very WHO and I think the themes could be retold in a darker way.

Psh you are assuming that when people write fic they pay attention to things like "staying in character"! That is just crazy talk. Fic is all wish-fulfillment and if the author thinks her eyebrows deserve praise, by God, Ten is going to praise Rose's eyebrows. Seriously though, what? Half the reason I ship Ten/Rose is because they're so adorably romantically incompetent.

Omg DAMN YOU MEYER for making people think it's romantic. At least, I guess, Ten wouldn't be tanding there thinking OMG SHE SMELLS SO GOOD I JUST WANT TO SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF HER BODY. But it's still creepy. And he's way too ADD to stnad there watching someone do nothing for 8 hours, even if it is precious precious Rose. I can see him being enough of a creeper to maybe check up on her every once in a while -- maybe at the end of s2 at the height of the ~storm approaching~ angst that is so overblown in fandom (srsly, do giggly Army of Ghosts Ten and Rose look like they fear some oncoming storm? No, they are skipping) -- but just in like a, "oh look she's still alive" sort of way.

Yeah I know, with Ten2 I just kind of have to grudgingly take ti, even if inside I am like NO THIS IS CLEARLY WRONG OBVIOUSLY I AM RIGHT. But yes I'm sure I'll never stop thinking OH MY GOD HE'S TEN WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT D: Also, I don't get why people think being "human" (but really "part-human" which everyone seems to ignore) would suddenly give him all these human instincts/whatever. Donna even SAYS that the reason neither of them thought of spinning the Daleks arund (LIRL) is because they lack that bit of human gut-instinct that she has. Because they are not human. Either of them. Ahhh.

Sometimes I read badfic and one of the badfics I was reading was like some AU JE thing and suddenly the Master showed up and got freaky with Ten. It was bizarre. But yeah that's about the extent of slash I've read in this fandom. Jack/Ten hurts my soul a little because rofl, Ten has so little interest in Jack, I don't get how people don't see that. At least with the Master it's like, quasi-canon.

It was The Space Between Opposites (http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=28746). I ADORE this fic. Part of that is probably because I'm a linguistics minor and I find the way fic writers deal with Gallifreyan to be really interesting, and I really really like the way they deal with it in here. That said, I'm not sure it counts explicitly as slash. It's about as slashy as the s3 finale, which is to say "kindasortavery".

HM maybe I will go check those out. I havent' read that much with the Master because he's always some comic book villain, and while that may be what he was like in the older series (I don't know, I haven't seen any of them) and WAS what he was like in the Eight movie (omg, lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDKuGBYpP3Y)) it's not exactly what Simm's Master was like. He was a lulzy bastard but not really the "LET'S TIE HER TO THE TRAINTRACKS" type. He is the type who would like, force the Joneses and the Doctor to do a Christmas pageant for him.

Smeyer is like rule34 for fandoms only instead of porn there's destruction and general fail.

height of the ~storm approaching~ angst that is so overblown in fandom
I haven't encountered this tbh but I can see why it bothers you. Besides Ten and Rose were always too reckless and happy in each other's presence to think about any kind of consequence, it's more likely they'd think about it in silence and then distract each other with something silly.

Donna even SAYS that the reason neither of them thought of spinning the Daleks arund (LIRL) is because they lack that bit of human gut-instinct that she has.
TOTALLY. OH SO MUCH YES. I am quite disappointed that the major part of shipper-fandom has totally neglected to grasp this. It's almost as annoying as reading about a Ten2 who has forgotten how to speak anything but Gallifreyan and/or what his proper name is. WUT?

Hahahah oh god the Jack/Ten fics. The "best" ones are about how a depressed Ten comes onto Jack because he needs someone who can make him ~feel~ again. Like he ever cared about Jack in that way? It's more like he thinks of Jack as a stray dog who's had a rough life and he feels sympathy for it.

I am sure I'm going to miss most of the nuances of the fic because linguistics were never my forte, but thanks! I'm actually glad it's not slashy, IDK it just doesn't do it for me. I'm just on a hunt for more Master/Ten interaction like the phone-scene in tSoD

OMFG WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST WATCH? :D :D :D It makes me feel a deep spiritual satisfaction, and I also want to dress in drag if it can make me as fabulous as that.
Would the Doctor be Rudolph?

I dunno in those fics they're usually already sleeping together anyway, so they've already fallen down on my canon-compliant credibility scale. I can see the Doctor angsting about it in the same distant way I imagine him angsting about anything in s2, which is to say some part of him is always stuck on the "WITHER AND DIE" thing but then he probably just giggles and has pillow fights with Rose to ignore it.

Yeah idk. I don't think Ten2 is just Doctor's memories + a human body, I prefer to think of him as some sort of genetic mutt. But that might be because that way I can just make crap up about his phsyiology as I go along. Like, "yeah he totally sleeps like a human but he's still telepathic, what of it?"

I am totally fascinated by Gallifreyan but the use of it in fics sometimes makes me cringe. It depends, I am picky. I really like how it's used in that fic I just linked you to and I like how

the_tenzo described it, but sometimes it's just awkwardly done. I don't know, I am picky. I might write fic dealing with it eventually because I am intrigued, though, so I could just be a huge hypocrite. And the Doctor's name I am choosing to ignore beyond its basic existence. F u, River Song.

Ten totally only has a passing interest in Jack. Jack would be up for it, but Ten so wouldn't be, LIRL. Omg, and Jack meeting Eleven gives me total lulz.

I'm not big on slash either, mostly becaues I'm such a canon whore, and while I see that obviously there was some kind of bizarre tension going on in SOD/LoTL, I don't think it's the kind of tension that translates into anal sex. I think it was more complicated than that. But maybe that's just me.

Having said that, THIS IS MY FAVOURITE THING EVER. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHU2R18MMEQ)

That's the beauty of Ten2, he bloody grew out of a HAND, pretty much anything goes regarding his physiology. Even if there are some limits I suppose.

Jack is forever bitter that he'll end up a gigantic face with tentacle-dreads while the Doctor just keeps on getting younger the older he is, that bastard!

I'm a canon-lover as well, especially when it comes to shows that really do have good canon. Sometimes other stuff can be fun as well, but generally I'm satisfied with canon.

That vid is beautiful, the fact that twirling tutu-clad teletubbies really were in the episode makes it SO MUCH BETTER

It's kind of like the TARDIS. No one really gets it so you just make shit up.

My favourite part of Jack being Boe is thinking about how much eh must've been lolling when Cassandra kissed the Doctor. I choose to believe this was in his line of sight.

AUs in this show make more sense than AUs for other shows, but still, I generally feel the need to comply wiht canon.

YES. The teletubbies have to be the greatest thign in that epiosde because omfg.

MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE! MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!

We should start a comm called whohighhorses or just highhorses where we can post polls on what the Doctor would definitely not do.

This could be the first poll:

What would the Doctor not do:

1. Impregnate the face of Boe
2. Change his name to John/Jamie/Horace/anything else besides Doctor
3. Have sexual relations with Donna *shudder*
4. Paint the TARDIS red
5. Go shopping with Jackie Tyler

6. Have a threesome with the Master and Jack

7. Vomit babies from his mouth
8. Regenerate into Billie Piper

9. Have a gaggle of tiembabiez with Rose and name them after famous physicists and/or random gods and goddesses.
10. Live happily ever after.

11. MARRY A HUMAN, HEM HEM.

12. Have relations with a previous or current incarnation of himself.
13. Wear a trucker hat with 'ONCOMING POUT' emblazoned on the front.

I like #10. the best though, because its sooooooo true.

And maybe he would do #13, its hard to say.

Haha that is BRILLIANT.

comfyhorses; we're not afraid to kick back, relax and be obnoxious.

Let's do it! We could form teams (with which to have some sort of competitions) based on the different shades of David's velvet blazers/suits. I want to be team SexyMerlot.

I've never seen a picture that had the pants before.

Just... LIRL

It would make him nice and soft to hug, though.

Is it like Hogwarts houses? Like, "FIVE POINTS TO SHINY BRONZE (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/22/article-1126633-0320B91E000005DC-537_468x740.jpg)?"

That picture never fails to make me giggle and I fear that I could look at it all day and still be amused. Do you think he's trying too hard, trying not at all, or trying just the perfect amount?

And yes, its exactly like Hogwarts houses. So five points to SHINY BRONZE but I'm going to have to say ten points to SEXYMERLOT because of the pants.

I have considered your question for a good few minutes now and I am no closer to an answer than I was a few minutes ago. I think I like to imagine his thought process as being something like "yes, I will wear a suit made entirely of merlot velvet to Billie Piper's wedding, WHAT OF IT?" but I don't know if that classifies as trying or not. I think it might be intentionally not trying, which is kind of like trying not to try, and I don't know how I feel about that.

Well naturally. I don't know I want to be Head of Shiny Bronze though, that's kind of like being Head of Hufflepuff or something.

He really throws me some curve balls with his personality/commentary/velvet suits. Its hard for me to get a handle on his personality. He is a bit of enigma because he's obviously a gigantico nerd, but yet he's always gigantico famous and millions of people are hot for him. It's very confusing. He throws all of my social mores out of whack.

On a note that is not really related: I got sorted into Hufflepuff at Hogwarts Elite! I thought it was kind of ridiculous. But then I embraced it, because really I don't want to be a Gryffindor because they all try way to hard, and I'm not even remotely a hero. Ravenclaws are cool I guess but I don't want all that pressure to be smart all the time... thats a lot of pressure, I would prefer to be clever in sporadic bursts. Slytherin would be nice, but I think I'm far to apathetic to be devious... so I guess I go with all the rest into Hufflepuff. ? IDK. I would just sit in an yellow armchair and consume vats of wine and plates of cheese from the kitchen.

On another note: Hogwarts Elite is boring, you go through all that trouble to get in and then its a big nonlulzy FAIL.

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